Speaking of Pastors, Here are PHOTOS of Kiunas Mansion

Speaking of Pastors, Here are PHOTOS of Kiunas Mansion

Since Sunday, only one thing has been making headlines, Prophet Victor Kanyari.

His deceptions were exposed by Mohammed Ali and John Allan Namu in their investigative series Jicho Pevu and The Inside Story respectively. Videos showing Kanyari coaching witnesses were tabled and there was no way he was coming back from that.

Immediately after the exposé, Kenyans started comparing him with other pastors, notably the incredibly rich Bishop Allan Kiuna.

It is clear that Kanyari’s target market is the low class and that perhaps explains why he’s not as wealthy as his compatriot Bishop Kiuna. Together with his wife kathy, they run the Jubilee Christian Church, which is a meeting point for the rich. As expected, the panda mbegus Kiuna receives is way higher.

The Kiunas may not be mocking God to Kanyari’s level, but Kenyans are developing a general mistrust for all these ‘men of God’.

In case you’ve never seen these photos, here is the mansion JCC congregation’s money has built for their Pastor Kiuna.

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Courtesy of Nairobi Wire

Comments

Mwakilishi     Mon, 11/23/2009 @ 12:16am

It's a beautiful home , before you point fingers at men and women of God be sure that should Gods wrath unfold you are ready . That the people of the church have built their home is a beautiful thing . You say they pastor a rich group ? Then they appreciate what God has done for them . If I were in Kenya , that's the church I would go to , they have a rich and enjoyable sermon

Mwakilishi     Mon, 11/23/2009 @ 12:16am

I don't fault men and women of the clothe who are called by God to do his work and are blessed a hundred fold. Jesus said, "there is none who has left house, wife, brother, parents, or children for the sake of the Kingdom who will not receive MANY times in this life and the age to come." If Corporate  pays reasonably well, God pays infinitely better.

I take issue with women and men of "opportunity" who use the word to swindle, manipulate and enrich themselves. The bible says, "My sheep hear my voice and follow me." The congregation that desires the word of God will listen to God's Shepherd, meditate on the word daily and bear fruit according to the word they have heard and practice.  

The congregation that lusts after the flesh or things of the world will also listen to their shepherd(false prophets) and bear fruits according to the word they hear and that is the word of their false prophets. Like follows like. 

Mwakilishi     Mon, 11/23/2009 @ 12:16am

" be sure if God's wrath unfold you are ready" that is so stupid, Jesus rode a donkey while he was on earth, none of his followers were rich and even the tax collector had to straighten up and give away to the poor. These "preachers" in Kenya are the worst form of humans known to man, i mean, tell me who they are stealing from? People from poor areas such as kayole, mathare and any other slum you can imagine. As poor as these people are, they are very religious and try to live righteous lives and that is where these thieves come in, it is sad..... really sad that these fools are stealing from the less fortunate in society so they can leave as kings in the name of "god", God would never tolerate this NONSENSE, panda mbegu ya 310? really? God would never ask for "mbegu" from people who probable go hungry so these thieves can live like this, SHAME!!!!!!

Mwakilishi     Mon, 11/23/2009 @ 12:16am

I cannot restrain myself from wading into this conversation. There is absolutely nothing wrong with living in such splendid environment if you can afford it without relying on your congregation for this exaggerated lifestyle. For example if you as a pastor can afford to generate money independently for example a second job etc, nobody would bother about your lifestyle after all you are free to enjoy the fruits of your labor. I am a strong advocate of providing a reasonably good living for the Men of God from the church kitty but I get disturbed when I see these men of cloak abusing their positions and even to an extent of committing criminal activities in pursuit of riches and all this in the name of God. Indeed it is a noble thing to do service for the lord and the congregation and it beats logic to see these 'servants' living like kings.

As for those victims of exploitation , I have no pity for you because God has given you a free will of choice and you have made a choice to keep quiet as the ' the man of God ' keep exploiting you.

Time has come for us to be vigilant and seek the Lord to help us to understand His word which will give us wisdom to discern these things and avoid falling prey to these hyenas in sheep skins.

Mwakilishi     Mon, 11/23/2009 @ 12:16am

This article does not do any justice to the debate about the likes of Kanyari. By posting photos of a seemingly expensive house without attempting to research and explain how the owner came to build it, the author is only applying insinuations to suggest corrupt behavior on the part of these Bishop. Did the author ever engage his/her brains to weigh in the possibility that the rich congregation of this church could have bought or built this magnificent house for their pastor since they have the means? What if this is the kind of a house that congregation believes befits their bishop? Unless one has evidence as shown on KTN regarding Kanyari, there is no point of just posting pictures for the purpose of suggesting foul play. Some learned and smart pastors also become businessmen/women who know the art of investing in shares and so on and they can afford to own such a house. What I am trying to say is show evidence, do not just label anyone a robber just because they are driving a BMW.

Mwakilishi     Mon, 11/23/2009 @ 12:16am

God have mercy on all of us. People have became no better that mbuzis which are led by the butcher men right into the nyama choma. We have brains but we hardly use them. We have allowed this con jobs to multiply and invade the world over. Until the time you can use your own brains and question everything you are doomed. I have no sympathy for these fools who are conned every Sunday. My motto: No other human being can help you in your salvation except yourself. None!!!!!!! If you know of a person who has first hand knowledge of heaven or hell for that matter give them my email. The rest is all hearsay.

Mwakilishi     Mon, 11/23/2009 @ 12:16am

Kenya has seen corruption from all dimensions. The only reason this is being exposed it's because he is using God to do so. People have to choose to change themselves to change the whole country. Think twice before you get involved in corrupt deals of any level including in your own household and know that the way you conduct yourself translates to what Kenya is and will be for your kids. I condemn Pastor Kanyari's actions but I am sure there are more people just like him.

Mwakilishi     Mon, 11/23/2009 @ 12:16am

If this mansion is in the US of A, it could have been possessed by the Feds like now. I am not going to judge on behave of GOD and I ask HIM to deal with Kanyari and his lieutenants with HIS will.

Mwakilishi     Mon, 11/23/2009 @ 12:16am

The fact that there is a fake(s) means that there is an original(s)....and fake(s) doesnt make original(s) fake(s).....i fellowship in JCC and i dont know what people who dont fellowship there are busy talking about....am sane and dont have a problem giving coz i am not forced nor manipulated to give....I give to God through a man and what Bishop Kiuna does with the money aint my business and he is accountable to God and God can defend Himself.

Mwakilishi     Mon, 11/23/2009 @ 12:16am

God response Simon, infact, the media should know kwamba "WE" freely contributed to buy him a surprise Range Rover without his knowledge and contribution, and now since he lives and drives his hearts desires.....i think we should now think of buying 'mom' and 'dad' a plane...ndio haters waongee tena sana!!

Mwakilishi     Mon, 11/23/2009 @ 12:16am

When we mentally atrophy we believe anything that we are told by foreigners. The bible is a literature book talking about the lives of the Jewish people. The Koran is another literature book accounting for the lives of the violent and many - wives- marrying Arab people.

Warning: The Almighty Creator did not write these two books! Surprise! These two books are responsible for the death of our African mythologies, culture, religion and literature.

How many Japanese, Indians, and Chinese are followers of these two Arab and Jewish literature books? Very few indeed. Why are we Africans so vulnerable to "anything brought " to us from our mind programmers?

We are told to hate our hair, skin color and our vulnerable women spend a fortune trying to make their skin color and hair look "European!"

My philosophy is simple: live and let leave. Accept genetic, cultural and religious diversity. Don't impose your culture, language, and religion to anyone different from you. Treat these constructs as a buffet. Let people decide what they want to be but not impose your "own" ideas on other people.

Waswahili husema, "wajinga ndio waliwao." Usipotumia akili yako au kuilinda mtu mwingine atakumaliza. Pia, Waswahili husema, "asiyefunzwa na mamaye hufunzwa na ulimwengu usio na huruma. This world has no mercy. If you don't protect your brain 24/7, you are finished!

Mwakilishi     Mon, 11/23/2009 @ 12:16am

Mmmhhhh.........Beautiful House.this looks like a center though.Generally when you take people's money people are allowed to say whatever they want about you.Wao ndio wamekulipa chakula,wamekujegea nyumba ,wanakununulia nguo na wanalipea watoi wako fees,wanakulipia stimaa.....Its called fame...hey. How much charity do these people do??anyways,shauri yao....

Mwakilishi     Mon, 11/23/2009 @ 12:16am

The pictures alone does not prove foul play but Christians should be wise enough and ask for the Holy Spirit to guide them into choosing legitimate men of God and ministry because the devil is too at work into achieving his objective by labeling even the genuine one because every scandal by a  so called MOG is a strategic plus to devils kingdom just read through comments on kanyAris saga and you will understand what am saying many who comment has now good reasons now to reject the Gospel and to expose their atheistic minds to their own peril.

just read 2 Thessalonians 2:7-12 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Mwakilishi     Mon, 11/23/2009 @ 12:16am

@lucas:

Please respect the Almighty Creator.  Please don't quote anything from a book written by ordinary human beings like you.  The bible took more than 3,000 years to write.  It is the personal views of individuals like you.  Shame on you for quoting a book written by humans who had to lie to the weak minded people like you to believe that The Almighty Creator wrote it.

A basic question to the followers of the religion that is based on the son of Mariam (jesus):  how can you read one book for your entire life and not be able to finish it unless there is something  wrong with your mind?  This book should be banned!  I really sympathize with anyone who believes in this book including the other one that is based on the son of Aminah (mohamed).  These two books have killed the mind of Africans.

By the way, what are you doing with a name like "lucas?" Don't your people have names?  Please don't insult your ancestors by taking jewish names and making them  your own.  Have you met a jew or an arab who calls himself "Ngala?"  Shame on you for being ashamed of your ancestral names.

When you talk to any African who quotes from the koran or the bible, take off immediately.   These two jewish and arab literature books  are the basic sources of our problems in Africa.  Anyone using them as a guide to their daily lives is brainwashed beyond redemption.

Mwakilishi     Mon, 11/23/2009 @ 12:16am

the level of ignorance and stupidity in kenya is alarming. potassium permanganate turns to intensely pink or purple colour when mixed with water...who are those idiots that believed wanatoa pink or purple blood.....ama kuna watu hawajui blood is red....kwanza this chemical is used to treat sick "coughing" chickens....so if hawa watu hawajui blood is red ni washamba.... they should have thought of the chemical they use to treat sick "coughing" chickens shambani kwao.....nyangao wao..wapinduliwe na waliwe na kanyari kabisa!!!!!....

Mwakilishi     Mon, 11/23/2009 @ 12:16am

what..who said all the rich pastors/prophets are not real ones...from the look of the kiunas house i got a little bit suspicious about him being a true pastor...but only God knows i only believe my self and God now

Mwakilishi     Mon, 11/23/2009 @ 12:16am

Church going and praying is an addiction like alcoholism.  Addiction is a form of a very  serious mental illness.  It defies logic!  My suggestion to these churchholics  is to stop attracting new members especially young  children into their mental illness!

The other day I saw on a You Tube a mentally sick church leader of the Anglican church caught naked with another man's wife.  When caught, he was quick to blame his friends wife by claiming that had she not asked him to go  to the motel in order for him to pray for her, they would not have been caught fornicating.

I feel sorry for anyone going to any place of worship.  As I have said many times before, when the Almighty Creator gave us the BRAIN, the Creator's work was finished.  Therefore going to church is to indirectly "insult"  The Almighty Creator.

When you see a man or woman of cloth approach you, RUN away.  These thieves are after your money.  Please don't give them.  Ask them to look for a real job and contribute to the national economy.

Mwakilishi     Mon, 11/23/2009 @ 12:16am

All pastors, bishops and, well, all religious leaders are thieves. The only difference they have with kanyari is that most of them don't even know they're stealing.

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