'Kenyan Parents in USA' President Opposes Petition for Miguna Miguna's Return

In Legal jargon, this is what is called 'locus standi', or where you are standing, when making a claim. It simply means that one has to have a legally acceptable reason to make a Claim before a Court of Law, and a Court has to have the Jurisdiction to issue any 'Orders' that it issues, according to local and International Law. The main question therefore in this case is not that a Court issued orders, or even if they are being followed or not. It is whether a Kenyan Court can 'Order' the Kenyan Government to go against International Law, regarding one passenger. Mark you, these laws are made by International bodies, such as IATA, and they apply to everyone. IATA is not Subject to Kenyan Law, or 'Orders'issued by Kenyan Judges. If International Laws of Travel are not followed in Kenya, for whatever reason, IATA will take notes, and advise advice it's members accordingly. To make a long story short, Kenyan Law, including Court Orders, cannot be enforced by people, or entities who are not obligated, by International Law, to follow the Kenyan Constitution. Chacha Mwita had no 'locus standi', to issue these 'Orders', and the GoK has no 'locus standi', to enforce them. Chacha na Miguna wote wanabweka bweka.

Ps, it does not matter the reason that Miguna Miguna does not have a Kenyan passport, according to International Law. They don't care. According to this law, he is not a Kenyan citizen if he does not have a Kenyan passport. A Kenyan Judge has no power to change International Law.

@pokeo - there are millions and millions of the Con “groupings” started by several greedy characters in the name of supporting and helping those in the diaspora.

Beware - these @groupings@ do not have anybody’s interests at heart! Indeed, these folks are just looking for money to enrich themselves.

Most of these “groupings” are started by some old politicians who stole our coffers in Kenya and then ran away abroad to hide after they lost elections. And some are started by folks who claim to hold “dr” titles to mislead you.

And yes they will tell you; we are negotiating this and that clause in the BBI - passports, dual citizenship, panda mbegu, lower the price of Tusker Larger, free electoral positions in parliament paid for by tax payers, etc.

What you will never hear these “groupings” say is how the life of ordinary Kenyans can be enriched, how all kids can go to school free, how better medical services can be established to cater for expectant mothers, how agricultural products within the country can be fairy distributed to solve the hunger problems in Kenya, how the roads can be build to last for over 50 years without having to recarpet them with red dirt every two years at the tax payers expense, etc.

These groupings are led by “shiny” briefcase carries who exploit the problems in Kenya for their own stomaches! It is time to call the groupings what they are and tell Kenyans the kind of menace they pose to their wellbeing!

The leaders of these groupings live overseas, nearly all of them. Time to time they return to Kenya to vacation in 8 star hotels, while eating Kshs 5,000.00 per plate of breakfast, lunch, dinner plus some golden snacks.

They never visit Kenyans upcountry to find out how Kenyans live, find out the current needs and cone up with tangible solutions while there on the ground. These grouping only want to have audience with the corrupt politicians so they can find a nest egg in the 47 counties.

These folks only want to be seen standing next to “that” big name so they can have “headline” in media houses across the globe telling lies what they are doing to alleviate poverty, disease, ignorance, corruption, etc in Kenya, while in actuality, their intent is seek big cash donors to fatten their bank accounts overseas.

They write imaginative reports on various topics and then publish them to the world, but never come up with any tangible solutions to the minutest of the solvable problem. Sone if the problems they write about are of their own creation!

These diehards are now starting phone “groupings” so that they can “stage manage” political come back in their constituencies back in Kenya come 2022!

Next you will hear Ati, Kiama Kia GUI, kiama kia Funda, Kiama Kia Nyau, Kiama Kia Nguku, Kiama Kia Mburi, Kiama Kia Thugura, etc have been started.

We are told all these “ fraudulent groupings” need elected representatives in Kenya parliament. Then you find that those starting them are the only once running for those positions at the expense of ordinary Kenyan tax payers.

These folks are pure Kenyan black neocolonialists, frauds, and experts of conmanship whose entire intent is to exploit Kenyans back home.

Kenyans beware of fraudsters with “shiny” tools to blind your simple reasoning capacity! Kenya’s problems must be solved inside Kenya and not in some high-rise building in some place overseas!

miguna thinks with his mouth and talks non coherently once he looks at Kenya I'd card

Nicely put, @Jeri. I respect your Candidness.

@Sukari hahahaha that's a great advice. May be I will wait until he cools down from his two weeks trip from Europe and I will call him. As I mentioned he is a very nice person in person and that's why I can't understand his deeds when he gets at the airports he changes. I will invite him for some ugali and nyama and sukuma wiki hata tuko na uji hapa..asante

Miguna behaves decently when in Canada. He knows Canadian pp can take him anywhere in the world and he knows that he is a naturalized Canadian and his citizenship can be revoked if he misbehaves. Whether Kenya gov took his pp or not it has expired and he needs a new one. Why can't me or you travel to Kenya using our National ID? Miguna is just seeking popularity in a strange way he knows the law. If the Kenyan gov allows him to enter Kenya without valid travel documents they will be fined millions of dollars by IATA and Miguna knows that. He is trying to proof something and not sure what it is...

@Mugikuyu, if you get a pp illegally it can be taken away from you anytime.

@Mugikuyu for the umpteenth time, the Kenya Government took back their passport. It's states clearly that the passport is the property of the Kenya government in the back of the passport and may be withdrawn at any time. I'm unclear as to how that is unclear.

He obtained it using irregular methods. That is why it was taken away. Just the same way you would lose your US citizenship if you were not truthful. You know damn well that a lot of GoK offices are populated with corrupt people. As for us insisting he regain his citizenship just like ordinary raia (why is he special?), it is in our new constitution. Work on changing it if you must but it was ratified by a 2/3 majority. Kenyans in Kenya passed it and the minority living comfortably in the diaspora need to work with the majority to change it if they are dissatisfied. It may not be fair but it is in the constitution. Why does he get a pass and what part of the constitution should we ignore when we don't like it? FYI, I don't like it but I still followed the law. Lastly it was his choice to plan poorly and spend obscene amounts traipsing through Germany making noise. Are you saying he is so irresponsible with money that he couldn't find a decent hotel plus meals for a tenth of what he spent. He is bad at finances, horrible at politics and questionable at law.

I'm sure the Kenya courts are icons of moral probity and virtue and their rulings are never tainted by corruption. I'll ask you this, if I illegaly gain access to your property, which you then seize from me, and then a judge known for siding with the corrupt, rules in my favor for no good known reason, would you be ok with it. Before you say it's not the same thing, remember the passport is and remains the property of the issuing authority, in this case the GoK. It may be revoked and recalled at any time in Miguna's case because it was obtained irregularly-read criminally. There is a reason Chacha Mwita was banished to Kajiado and it's not because he was a great judge. Think Akasha, Mwilu and Ojienda. FYI, no need to shout

The problem with you people from Luo Nyanza is that you believe that the rules that apply to other human beings don't apply to you. The only problem is that you are not the Majority, so your will does not prevail.

Let me Guess... Gitau is an Idiot because he is a Kikuyu, but Babu Owino is somehow a hero, even if he shot someone, without any provocation... 😃😎 It means that it is okay for a Luo to shoot others without provocation, and hide behind tribal identity. As of now, I don't know whether the DJ who he shot was a Luhya, Kisii, or Luo. Don't call me a tribalist, but I know that many people want to know his tribe.

@ Maina...Asante Maina. We took a selfie with his phone and he texted it to me. He even texted me a while ago inviting me to one of his book signing events but I didnt go. I will definitely call him once he cools down. I am a parent like him and cannot discuss his son...all I can say he is a kid and a boy like any other child. But MM seemed a very good father.@ Maina I really enjoyed reading your post and it's very true hawa wazungu hutukana sisi in their hearts n even I cannot even start to comprehend what they think of MM. I totally understand no matusi...pls every one wish me luck as I try to understand what the problem is with MM...its gonna be a rainy weekend in Toronto this wkd so hopefully he will be relaxing at home and we can have a good chat

@ Maina...Asante Maina. We took a selfie with his phone and he texted it to me. He even texted me a while ago inviting me to one of his book signing events but I didnt go. I will definitely call him once he cools down. I am a parent like him and cannot discuss his son...all I can say he is a kid and a boy like any other child. But MM seemed a very good father.@ Maina I really enjoyed reading your post and it's very true hawa wazungu hutukana sisi in their hearts n even I cannot even start to comprehend what they think of MM. I totally understand no matusi...pls every one wish me luck as I try to understand what the problem is with MM...its gonna be a rainy weekend in Toronto this wkd so hopefully he will be relaxing at home and we can have a good chat

@Sukari really appreciate your compliments...I cannot tell you how many texts I woke up to...i guess as a good will ambassador my work is done😏

Kiihu - “better” is just a relatively expressive word. Who is “better” than who? Shauri yako wewe!

Kiihu, if he refuses to obey tue current constitution, as powerless as he is now, consider what would happen if he were the chief executive with actual power. I personally think an exec like Kibwana is what Kenya needs and not a self serving firebrand

Reverse not refer their current positions

@kinungu - ok Einstein genie genius!

Your old age is the problem here! You think you know it all - don’t you?

You ain’t no father to nobody! You should now be a great, great, double great grandpa if in 1975 you were in your late 50s! And do I need to say again!

@kinungu - geniuses don’t make public pronouncement if their unleveled mental faculty acumen! It is those next to them that make that determination if someone is a genius! Not sure if we should accept your self serving selfish analysis of your old faculties!

@bwana Kinungi, why bring ethnicity into it? What does it have to do with being of a reflective mind? Are you saying a Kisii charcoal burner is less thoughtful? What role did the lack of opportunity play in his current economic status and do you think him a lesser man because of that? My progenitors include people from Meru and my great grandma's name was not really Nyokabi, that was a reference to her origins. I went to school with people who were Kale, Luo, Kisii, Luhya, Kamba, Goan, Wahindi, WaSwahili, Kuria, Somali, mTanzania, an Amhara, a Malawian by way of Uganda. My first roommates in the US were Maragoli and Kisii. I was born in the shadow of Kenya. The only time my relatives in Central were afraid, it was 2009 and the threat was from fellow children of Mumbi terrorising people between Mathira and Kagio. What I'm saying in my long winded way is judge people by their actions, not ethnicity. Be peaceful this Sunday - this might help
https://youtu.be/BlBQuFJ5xPY

@kinugu - a racist bigot with “dr” title in-front of his funny names! As one can say, Kinugu simply means @a big Ape!”. You act like one when you start tribalising other Kenyans.

These are the kind of folks claiming credit that they wrote the BBI! He feels that Kenyans owe him something in return if he ever even contributed a sentler of anything.

He claims to be the BBI brain child and now he wants to be repaid with a huge political office in Nairobi, paid for by the poor tax payers. Big belly trying to get even bigger!

He is asking the poor folks in Kenya to pay his way back to Kenya by awarding him political positions so he can claim the “mheshimiwa” title on top of a phony “dr” title. A naughty charcoal burner professor with a shiny briefcase full of lies to deceive the weak and the meek! Surely a big head for nothing dude!

You claimed to be both a father and a great grandma to your audience - now, you can generously acquire those honored titles if only you can stop discriminating among Kenyans by the virtual of their names and the places they were born in Kenya. And by the way 1975 is way agu and agu if you asked me! You ain’t a teacher to nobody.

Wow, what a foolish dude with an undesiring marginal mind to claim to hold “dr” title with a background in 6x6 matrix!?

Don’t insult Kenyans who make a living burning and selling charcoal - many of them surely make a living doing just that - you ain’t special at all you arrogant beast!

Your kind of folks have subjected the good Kenyan people to marginality and dire poverty! Your poverty driven mind set says everything about your very small head, seriously naively conceited with some defalcating arrogance.

Have you no shame, have you no descent, and have you no moral conscience you educated bigot, to classify Kenyans by ethnicity, professional acumen backgrounds, and their locality so you can demean them!? Have you no shame you “educated” fool!

Your mediocrity is a proof that hold a “dr” does not always reflect knowledge, wisdom, and some bits of understanding! You are a let down to your classification kind!!

@kinugu - you are so full of your carca self! Not even funny anymore! How can a poor fellow like you afford a scholarships for yourself or anyone else? What a tribal bigot!?

I will show you deserving Kenyan students who you provide scholarships to! Talk is so cheap! Where have you been before when Kenyans of good faith have been paying for needy kids to go to school all over the world!

Stop uttering filth and put actions to work! You got to start some place - scholarships my foot!

Ya, uhu, hit headlines by being a thief?

And by the way, I am a Kenyan! I ain’t like you who classifies Kenyans on the basis of tribal affiliations and the kind of works they do to make a living!

You align yourself with the most corrupt in Kenya to feel your greedy tummy; don’t you? That is exactly who you are, and that is your place of pride in the society!

Like I have told you before, you are too old for anyone to listen to your dead ideas on how to provide for you through political positions! You won’t even make it in Kenya; you are just a lazy boom!