[VIDEO] What is Life Like for Kenyans in the US?
Kenyans living in the United States have been in the headlines lately, albeit for the wrong reasons. Barely a week passes without news of a Kenyan who has either been murdered, committed suicide or involved in the killing of a fellow Kenyan. In the last two months, at least 10 Kenyans have either died or been involved in bizarre incidents resulting in other people's deaths.
NTV's Larry Madowo sought out to find why this is happening. He spoke to former Kenya ambassador to the US Elkanah Odembo.
Video Courtesy of NTV.
Unfortunately if the immigration bill goes thru' and b'comes law, all students who dropped out of school will not get papers (per bill passed in the US Senate. The main thing is that people who come here either legally or become illegal, they are always poor prepared. Culture-shock is huge. American can be fabulous if you go to school, get a degree and obey the law.
All Diasporas should watch this discussion as its quite important and please advise advice your brothers and sisters who are coming here.
I know many especially married ones are under pressure to provide for family needs that are very high and can cause stress and family misunderstanding.Also if ladies want to break marriage , let them go away nicely and not embarras or ridicule the men.This is can cause man/men to act wildy and results are bad.Whether one stays there or not home is best if one has income. Another problem i witnessed is children born there by not taught by Kenyan parents about kenyan culture and at end behave like americans who think africa is jungle....and only meant for safaris........
@Lucky, and how many Kenyans in Kenya are experiencing stress providing for their families? Why is alcoholism and domestic abuse rampant in Kenya? Give me a break.
Please first do not ever compare Kenya and that nation........first no one expects Kenyan with green card to return since opportunities and jobs are no longer there....stress is husband return in Kenya and wife/kids refuses to return.
It is better to suffer at home than in nation far away from home... We know all well the foundation of that palce was with free labour and took advantage in Africa to us to .....
I visited a family in US after many years and were welcome well. Was amazed they complained when i bought usd100 shoes that in Kenya is more costly........they said i should have waited for sale.But i said no no i want to buy it now siince am not here for long. Sorry to say many many Kenyans who went to US had never driven or owned a car, never visted masai mara , gone to beach or game safari , high end shopping mall in kenya and see as achievement to drive and do this things in US courtsey of credit card/s. Would like tell them Kenya has changed for better though will many challenges...land is expensive now, construction boom and other things.....we will make it with good policies and leaders....
A car in not a luxury here. its a necessity. so is a mobile phone and a GPS. Masai mara can wait. it aint going anywhere, unless the continue destroying mau forest. As i said b4, kasomo is very important here. There are over 10k colleges in usa. One can go to school any time at any age. Some states are better that others. Some more friendly than others. If you do everything right in this country you can live well. Follow the law and maintain a good credit score, and good life is yours. Some illegal immigrants live better lives than legal ones. They understand they cannot get on the wrong side of the law. Upon all, DO NOT DRINK AND DRIVE - this is where all the hell breaks out!. call a taxi or a friend to pick you up. Pay your bills on time. Obey traffic laws.
@lucky, you seem to be one of those Kenyans that are misguided and don't understand the US culture and how things work here. I had to laugh when you mentioned that you bought $100 shoe and didn't bother to get a good deal/sale. Many native Americans will laugh at your thinking. There are many Kenyans in US making very good salaries who would NOT buy $100 shoes. Looking for deals/sales is part of the American culture. But if you wanted to stroke your ego by buying $100 shoes - in probably a store many smart shoppers won't go to - so you can go brag to your friends in Kenya of your foreign purchases - you go right ahead. I visit Kenya often, so I know about how many Kenyans also survive on credit, especially when one has to wait for pay after 30 days. There are Kenyans of all backgrounds here, just like they are in Kenya. Kenyans in diaspora are investing in real estate. We are a major contributor to Kenya's economy. So next time you visit, take time to meet different Kenyans, and don't announce so loud how you are foolishly throwing money away buying a $100 shoe that you might get elsewhere for $50.
@ CommonSense ..First and foremost am not just those simple guys out there in Kenya who go shopping in Ronald Ngala street...i cant remember when i went there nor have time to waste there nor do i stay in simple class places like wooden houses in there.What am trying to say is that i have been there many times and those who have stayed there for 10years think US is only place one can make it in life.I have made it in other places of world and would not like to live in nation without papers and and soon many will be kicked out and there will no where to go to live in Kenya. Why do those in US think or try to show life there is bed of roses.I have gone and lived in 5 continents and would not like to live in US neither people close to me.Am sure you never been to nice place in Kenya before you went to US and thus mentalaity US is heaven.......can visit any nation any time for holiday.....not for roller coaster rides you guys go over weekend.........in US....my poor chaps in US wanted me to stay in US to wait for shoe price to go down and same time loosing income for extended holiday.....
Wow! Social media does have lots of weirdos out here. People who are truly successful and secure with themselves seldom go bragging like you do. Just the same way you were laughing at your friends asking you to wait for a sale, I am shaking my head at your ignorance and insecurity. I havent been to nice places in Kenya? Haha, if you only knew how wrong and clueless you are..... Since you love it so much where you are, stay right there and don't go through the trouble of coming here with your type of thinking. You are best ignored. Adios!
You have lived in 5 continents and your grammar is this poor. You need a life. There are a lot of Kenyan who are doing well all over the world. I dont know why people like to hate on those who are particularly living in the States. Even if someone is working at Mcdonalds or for that matter a fast food joint, there is nothing wrong with that, its part of the immigrant story.
@commonsense, well said. The guy visited with one family and all of a sudden he/she has a solution for all the ailments afflicting kenyans in the States. Dont know which continent you have been too but I suggest you expand your horizon. $100 shoes is not something to brag about. They are people who spend $100 for lunch and they are not preaching about it.
Please please do not imply that Red Indians who are the natives are living good life there.
It is known they were driven from fertile lands to mountatins and dersets there and suffering.....i went to Atlanta some time back and saw beggars..... First those guys do not know our culture and neither do i want to copy what is not african....
You seem to be cheap cheap guy......and there is nothing i can learn
Your understanding of "native American" is way out of context. "Red Indians" ?? I had to laugh. The last time I had that word used was in cowboy movies of yester years. Anyway, your response alone tells me you are so clueless you are best ignored. Adios.
I really enjoy reading these articles, truth really comes out reality sets in. Good work, I commend you on that. You seriously don't waste time.
@Lucky - Thought you lived here, unfortunately you visited and that's why you still got Kenya mind set. $100 Shoe is nothing, send that money in whatever you like but don't brag how you know how to spend. People here can afford anything you want but we have priorities and goals to make. I can where shoe more than $100 you spend like a clean 6" Premium Timberland @$180+TAX. To remind you here there are Mall every where.
Masai Mara is just seeing wild animals, here you should talk about Cruise Ship, Space station and may be Disney World. Telling us about visiting beach or a game safari is all illusion to as in "been there done that, I seen it all but not really important".
Credit Card!!!!! Live to your means. [Late fee, collection department deduction on my pay check, flying money out of my pocket is not order of the day]. FOCUS ahead.
Everyday in news we here DIASPORA REMITTANCE, so who in diaspora doesn't know about land and construction boom if they are the one keeping economy high.
So I think you were just one time visitor who didn't see the bigger picture. Get a life and maybe out of mwakilishi.
as An African you are grouped as an African American and you have to manouver your way out of that? WOW, that is the stupidest thing i have heard a human being say since i have been in America! You dont run away from your people or who you are, trust me, you are what you are and that is how others perceive you, just because you are an Australian sheep doesn't mean you are not a sheep, please dude, don't reproduce. WOW WOW WOW, DUMB DUMB DUMB!
Parents thinking of bringing their kids to school in the United states need to listen to what the ambassador just said. If you can't afford to pay for your kid's education in the US, just let them go to school in Kenya, especially if your kid is academically gifted. Those bright Kenyan kids have better educational chances in Kenya. The ones who are academically challenged can in most cases come and rough it out here in the US because it's not like they would be doing any better in Nairobi.
Ive seen come here with as little as $500 and they still make it. As one of those gentlemen said, It depends whom you meet 1st and which state you go to. Traditionally the midwest is the best place to get an education. after you graduate you can move to big cities like Atlanta, Dallas, San francisco, Seattle, etc. Avoid super bid cities, NY, Chicago, LA, Houston, Miami and a few more. Some smart students will drop from Expensive colleges and join cheaper ones. This in not a raw deal. its being smart. Here in US you study 4 a career-period. Healthcare is huge and pays well. After 1st degree, do the rest online. Trust me you will make it!
America is still the best place to be, but only if you have no problems with books. You have to know math, sciences and perfect English language articulation (this has nothing to do with your accent .just correct verbs and nouns, and saying it loud and clear will do it.)Do only courses that even if you don't have papers the government will be ashamed to deport you, for example if you are an MD, PARMACIST, MSN OR BSN holder, MATH SPECIALISTS OR PROFESSORS, or something of science etc.-the idea is to do what Americans find hard to do, They would rather keep you here than send you to Africa.
The best visa to come here with is the greencard.With this federal government paid about $5500 of Pell grant per year for my education, I had scholarships and most of my school expenses were taken care of. I can work as many hours as I want and still go to school. You MUST obey the law, pay all your taxes on time, pay all your debts and above all avoid alcohol and child support. Don’t also forget to Go to church frequently and stick to the teaching. It took me 3yrs to complete NURSING degree(to save time I challenged a lot of tests through CLEP and school departments giving me credits, this is how I managed to remove one year from my degree plan) Now I get paid about $25/hr. I work 12hrs per day, that about $9000 per month. Within one year only I have owned 3 commercial houses in Nairobi. This I could not do while I was in Kenya earning about ksh18,000.per month.
Let nobody lie to you there is no money here, all I have seen is money around me in nursing career. Hospitals and nursing homes call me every day giving me hours to work; some agencies even want me to do flying nursing.
If you get green card ,have someone like me to host you, have book brains and you are not lazy come here as soon as you can.If others have wasted their chances through beer and making babies anyhow, that’s their problem, let them not deceive you.
I have been in America long enough to know that you can be happy wherever you are. All you need is a bunch of cells called brain. So, stop whining and go think of how you can better yourself. Someone mentioned Massai Mara, ....smh. I don't wanna sound rude but the poorest immigrant in USA can afford a weekend in mara and extras. But can not afford that $100 shoe because it is all about common sense and priorities. Surprisingly, he will be wearing it but did not spend the $100. Kenyan economy is ran by the diaspora as we speak. the reason these cases are coming up is because the number of kenyans in USA has reached high enough. Few people have less news, more people make more news.